Sunday, June 5, 2011

YOM007 Presuppositional Apologetics and Calvinism: Always Assuming the Worst

The following lecture was is entitled "Presuppositional Apologetics and Calvinism:  Always Assuming the Worst"  by Justin Schieber recorded at CFI Michigan.  Justin introduces the concepts behind the Presuppositional Apologetic method, reveals its intimate ties to the Calvinist tradition and puts a critical eye to its most popular arguments.   To listen to this, or any other 'Yahweh or Myweh' episode, click HERE.
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9 comments:

  1. At the very end "To be honest, we have to realize that everything we believe we maybe mistaken about"

    I can just hear the presuppositionalist response: "Even that?"

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  2. You've got to admit, there is a mysterious force in presuppositional apologetics. Normally, Fergus and I fight like dogs, but when this topic comes up, a certain closing scene from Casablanca comes to mind!

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  3. Haha, I have had many opportunities to watch that film. Sadly, I have yet to sit through it.

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  4. Hmmm, I kinda like the presup :-D

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  5. Sye, since you are of the presuppositional path, do you think I did a fair job in representing the position?

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  6. Sorry Justin, haven't listened to it yet. When I do, I'll post my thoughts, but as to your question... probably not :-)

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  7. Listened to it. I'd say your description of the argument is about 75% accurate and your 'refutation' of it maybe 10% (and that's being generous). I'm on the road now, but if you'd like to inerview me for your podcast perhaps we can arrange something when I'm back.

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  8. Sye, very Interesting. That bad eh?

    I appreciate the offer and we would love for you to come on the show to submit your corrections to my blunders.

    Let me know when you get back.

    -J

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  9. I thought your talk was really interesting. I'd never heard of classifying apologetics as traditional, evidentialist and presuppositional before, but that really does make a lot of sense. Now I've realized I've argued against people who have used presuppositional arguments before, and I thought saying they were just being incredibly presumptuous. It turns out, that was their whole point. :)

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